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time. we save a seat at the table for you. you can join up by giving us a call at 1-866-55-press. by going on twitter at bpshow. going on facebook, facebook.com/billpress show or joining the chat room. always fun to find out what your fellow "full court pressers" across the land are thinking. go to current.com. click on the chat room and you are in as part of the conversation. great to see you today. again, thank you for joining us. we are going to -- we've been talking about david petraeus. let's get into the other big story of the day here in washington and that is congress coming back to town tomorrow with the challenge preventing this country from going off the fiscal cliff to help us through that weighty subject stan collender is the national director of financial communications at corvis communications in here this morning. that's a pretty fancy title. >> it is difficult to get on a

business card, for sure. >> bill: unless your business card is this big. >> or you click on it and it gets you to the right web site. >> bill: good to see you stan. >> thank you. >> bill: our team, peter ogborn has a couple of days off. we'll limp by without him. dan henning picking up most of the burden with the help of phil backert on phones and cyprian bowlding our videographer as always keeping us on camera. >> we don't have someone doing craft services or hair or anything like that? >> bill: no. we do our own makeup. [ laughter ] all right now, there's a rule here today. every guest has to answer the first question. should petraeus have resigned? >> look, i don't know a whole lot about the details. was it a national security leak, i don't know. >> bill: they say no. the fbi says no. >> fine. the big thing for me is i would rather this not impede any of the discussion on actual issues so if getting him out of there meant that the president didn't

have to answer lots and lots of questions about what he knew and why is he still there that's fine. you know why i feel bad about it nobody is talking about petraeus' wife. she suffered in silence and either knew or is now incredibly humiliated by the whole thing. >> bill: an outstanding lady. she works for -- >> financial -- the financial consumer protection bureau. >> bill: yeah, right. >> you know, fine. let's get on where -- there are other people who can do petraeus's job and let's just move on to the fiscal cliff, for example. let's stop the country from going into a recession. >> bill: i won't debate it with everybody. that's what people are talking about today. >> fox is probably leading with that instead of the fiscal cliff. >> bill: they did. >> of course they did. >> bill: i also want to point out that people are talking about and people have been

asking me so what do you think that -- in fact, my wife asked me what do you think mitt romney is going to do next? "saturday night live" had a little fun with that. as always. people are looking forward to it. mitt romney is out on his balcony just kind of gazing at the stars trying to figure out what he's going to do next and his son tagg, comes along. >> hello father. >> hello, tagg. >> i'm so very angry father. i wish you could punch america in the face. >> now, now. this is not a time for anger tagg. >> so what's next for you father? >> oh, i don't know. there's so much i want to see and do. i would like to learn how may face is -- mayonnaise is made. >> bill: stan collender here with us. we'll be joined later by terry

o'neill, president of the national organization for women. joe cirincione from the ploughshares fund will be along in studio. let's get started stan. but first -- big stories here. >> on this monday, other headlines making news, james bond is king at the box office. "skyfall"'s opening weekend is the best ever. took in under $90 million in the u.s. alone over the last three days. the last bond flick "quantum of solace" took in $67 million in its first weekend. >> bill: i heard "skyfall" is really good. >> i've heard nothing but good. as you drink your coffee this morning, look at the cup and ponder this. in less than 70 years coffee could be extinct. that's the worst-case scenario spelled out in a new study by climate change by researchers at the botanic gardens in england. the arabica coffee plant and many others could likely not

grow in the wild as soon as the year 2080 because it will be too warm and the coffee growing regions of africa and south america for the beans to grow which will make the cup of coffee that will then from an indoor farm very expensive. >> bill: look, i'm all for climate change. wouldn't they grow it somewhere else? >> like in alaska. we could replace oil with coffee and it would be the new -- >> bill: this is why i stopped drinking coffee. about 20 years ago. i knew it was coming. >> correct. >> veterans day. marine sergeant took the opportunity to embark on a very long run. nbc reports 24-year-old brendan o'toole is running across the country for charity. he plans to run 15 miles a day five days a week from california to maine running through 21 states in eight months looking to raise $2 million for veterans and wounded warriors. >> i think that's great. >> bill: it is great. >> a lot of running. >> bill: you hear about people

like this and you're glad somebody else is doing it. thank you dan. >> dan, one question for you what do you think the price of a ticket for the first james bond film was compared to the price for the latest one? >> now a movie ticket is from $10 to $15. probably $1.25. >> the fact that it is the most -- has the biggest grossing number may not be all that significant. the question is how many tickets did it sell? >> okay. here is the mathematician. >> the budget guy. >> bill: okay. how bad is the fiscal cliff? >> it is terrible. this would the worst policy put in place since the end of the first depression. we went to austerity too early. we pushed the economy back into a recession. this would reduce gdp by about 3 percentage points. maybe a little bit higher. since we're only growing at about 2, that would put us into negative territory for all of 2013 and get unemployment back into the 9% range. >> bill: when we're talking about the fiscal cliff we're talking about what is also

called sequestration. >> sequestration is part of it. fiscal cliff on january 1, a bunch of tax increases about $500 billion. on january 2nd, it is about $120 billion in spending cuts. the combination $600 billion or so would be the largest one-year nominal reduction in the deficit in history. >> bill: in one year. >> in one year. it is what all of the deficit hawks have been wanting and now they're saying let's not go there here. you've got the ceos from all of the companies saying basically stop the fiscal cliff. what they're really saying is we like higher deficits. they're good. >> bill: what brought about the fiscal cliff? >> it is a combination of things. first of all, some of it is the republican's own fault. every time you hear lindsey graham or somebody saying we've got to stop this, let's keep in mind -- >> bill: they did it. >> part of it. the bush era tax cuts were put in place for only ten years because they didn't want -- they didn't think they could get the 60 votes to extend them

permanently. that created this -- a good part of the tax aspects of it. the same thing was true with the payroll tax expansion. they demanded a one-year cut to the end of the extension. there, they happened because of the deal on the debt ceiling last year. >> it came out of mitch mcconnell's office. harry reid went along with it. mcconnell voted for it. john mccain who is a big critic of the defense part of the sequester, it was he voted for it. paul ryan voted for it. so you know, i'm not saying democrats are blameless here or don't deserve some of the responsibility but the idea that republicans are washing their hands and saying this is a white house ploy is completely wrong. >> bill: i was at the white house friday when president obama came into the east room and made a very short speech. very clear about what his plan is and what he wanted. here's the president with one challenge to members of

congress. >> obama: i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> bill: what does he mean by that? >> balanced. he's saying first of all it's not just spending cuts. it has to be revenues as well. second, he's rejecting the john boehner approach which is boehner saying i'll agree to revenues as long as they come as a result of economic growth. in other words, we won't legislate changes in taxes. we'll hope that revenues go up. he's saying no, that won't work for me. you're not going to legislate spending cuts. this is the president talking. not legislate revenue changes as well. >> bill: all right. so there are -- the most immediate decision maybe facing the congress is that as you point out, all of the bush tax cuts expire. which means not only the taxes -- tax cuts for the wealthy expire, the tax cuts for those making under $250,000 a

year expire as well. so the president said friday all right, the senate has already passed a bill which would give extended tax cutless for the 98%, those making under $250,000. but let the ones for the wealthier people and defined as over $250,000 expire. and he challenged the house of representatives to pass that. what do you think -- so this is a real -- to me, this is like they've got the gun to their head. are you going to pass the tax cut for 98% of americans or hold them up because you want to help the 2%? >> here's -- the interesting problem for republicans. on the one hand, if they wait until next year, the senate will be more democrattive and more progressive. on the other hand if you're a republican in the house you're thinking you're the last bastian. you're the barricade. you can remain in power through the end of the decade because of the redistricting that's happened but you won't remain in power if you increase taxes on the wealthy.

your base will go berserk and won't show up at the next election. >> bill: but is that really true? that's what some of these -- >> yeah. >> bill: idiots think -- but is that really true? do you think -- i want to play another clip for you. this is bill crystal who is nobody more conservative than bill crystal. publisher of the weekly standard right? dan quayle's former chief of staff. on fox news sunday yesterday morning. here's what bill crystal said about the fact that republicans are willing to go to the barricades for the 2%. bill crystal. >> float new ideas. let's have a serious debate. you know what? it won't if we raise taxes. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $50,000. republican party is going to fall in sorts to millionaires half of whom vote democratic and half of whom live in hollywood.

>> bill: i think he makes sense. >> he's sounding like a democrat there basically. >> bill: sounding like a smart republican. >> well but here's the interesting situation. the discussion that has to take place on the fiscal cliff, the first one is not democrats versus republicans and not the white house versus congress. it is republicans versus republicans. this has to happen almost by thanksgiving if we're going to have a resolution to this. i've been telling my clients for months i think it is more likely we'll go over the cliff before we fix it. we're not going to get a chance -- there won't be a deal before january 1. we're going to have to go over it. get people upset about it and fix it in january. >> bill: you know what? if republicans refuse to pass -- if they really fall on their sword as bill crystal said for the 2% and screw the 98% i wish we could have another election in january. i bet the american people would throw all of those out. i really do. stan collender is with us. fiscal cliff is coming. so is congress coming back.

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i like that. >> and my blog is capital gains in gains.com. you should check it out. it is now considered one of the top 100 economic blogs in the "wall street journal"'s -- called it one of the top 25 financial blogs. >> kind of a big deal. >> my mother was very proud. >> bill: we're very proud. >> thank you very much. >> bill: so here's the deal. what i don't get is the republicans are saying, for example, this fiscal cliff. okay. we'll accept some extra revenue now. john boehner is saying we'll take some revenue as long as it comes from tax reform meaning tightening up the loopholes and everything which we need to do. but we will never never ever accept any extra revenue if it comes from raising taxes. when the hell did we, as a nation, decide it is evil or impossible or whatever outlawed to raise taxes? >> not sure the exact date. it was probably like june 27th

of some year. >> bill: but why? what's un-american about raising taxes? >> look, no one likes -- the same way that no one likes spending cuts and don't forget the complaints about the -- if you're going to complain about the deficit or be worried about it, you can't say i'm worried about the deficit but don't do this. >> bill: right. >> i don't want to pay anymore which i hear a lot. i don't want to pay anymore either but i also would like to get us out -- >> bill: i don't want to pay anymore but i'm glad to pay my fair share and i do. >> that's the way i feel when i do my tax returns every year. this is a pain but i'm happy to do it and i actually think i get a lot of value for what i pay. >> bill: they say we're doing this in the legacy of ronald reagan. bull you know what. ronald reagan raised taxes five times. >> reagan would have no place in the current republican party given some of the things they did. grover norquist holds him up as an icon. grover is in a completely

different place than he is on taxes. >> bill: why don't the media expose these people as the liars and hypocrites that they are? >> because they're fair and balanced. >> bill: so are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> i think we are. i think we are. for a couple of reasons. one, there's not a whole lot of time. it is six weeks from tomorrow to the start -- >> bill: they don't have any backbone. >> that's number two. number three 80 lame ducks who may not show up to vote. plus you've got this stale -- continuing stalemate on tax and spending policies and then on top of everything else, it is not really a fiscal cliff. it is a fiscal slope. it stays in place. they called it a cliff but the damage to the economy the real damage only happens if you expose it. >> bill: stan collender, check him out at the budget guy. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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>> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the "bill press show." >> bill: here we go. it is 33 minutes after the hour. veterans day 2012. great to see you. thank you so much for being part of the "full court press" here. we're coming to you live from our nation's capital with the big stories of the day. and take your calls at 1-866-55-press. you can also follow us on twitter at bpshow. jake sherman covers congress for politico. joining us in studio this morning. to talk about some of the big issues before congress as we

were discussing discussing with stan collender, they come back tomorrow. they've got their -- the lame duck session so-called and they've got their work cut out for them. president obama delivering the challenge to congress in a speech in the east room of the white house on friday. jake, it's good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> bill: before we get to the fiscal cliff again and what's happening in congress on it, some members of congress are pretty upset they were not informed ahead of time by the fbi about what was going on with david petraeus. do they have a legitimate beef? >> probably. now it is coming out this might have been known as early as this summer. this has been going on for quite some time. usually about eight to ten members of congress would have heard about something like this, the speaker the leaders of all -- of both parties in both chambers and the intelligence. there's no evidence that they -- that's kind of an impenetrable

circle of people. very high-ranking. classified briefings. no evidence whether they heard it or not. eric cantor, the house majority leader -- >> bill: senator fine sign, hair of the senate intelligence committee said they were not informed. but eric cantor was. why? >> apparently it was a whistle-blower that came to him. cantor had no kind of material effect on this investigation. he heard but when he went to the fbi, it was already known and the investigation was well underway. so he is now finding himself as part of the story where he had almost no actual role in it. >> bill: do you think there will be some questions in congress about why the fbi was involved in this -- in the first place? i mean -- >> probably. >> bill: these are back to the days of j. edgar hoover and the fbi investigating extramarital affairs. >> we don't know the full back story it doesn't seem at this point.

>> bill: it seems like one woman -- >> a love triangle. >> bill: she was getting e-mails from another woman and she talks to a friend who happens to be an fbi agent who says we'll start an investigation. jesus. >> i think congress -- when congress sees the opportunity to get involved, it usually does. i think it is safe to say congress will inject itself with hearings and things of that nature. >> bill: and not to put you on the spot but won't it be a little awkward for some members of congress who are not known for never having -- let's say who are known to many of them for having extramarital affairs to be investigating and demanding that general petraeus resign over an extramarital affair? david vitter is still in the u.s. senate. >> let me see if i can answer this without losing my job. i think they'll stay narrowly focused on what they think is a breakdown in communication between the fbi and congress over something -- investigating

the nation's top spy. i think they'll probably keep it focused to communication and why they weren't inform and why they didn't know. if you think about it, it is illogical. you're not going to tell every member of congress this. should the big eight or ten in congress know? perhaps and they'll make the case. but not every member of congress all 535 should be aware of an fbi investigation. >> bill: i don't think it is the work of the fbi to investigate extramarital affairs. i don't think it is the work of the congress to investigate the extramarital affairs. i do believe it is the work of the fbi to get something done about this fiscal -- for congress to get something done about this fiscal crisis. this is president obama in the east room the white house on friday. >> obama: i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but i refuse to accept any

approach that isn't balanced. >> bill: now i will take the position of thomasman and ornstein who wrote a wonderful book, it is worse than it looks who said we could have gotten this done. an agreement on the deficit reduction plan a balanced plan if republicans had been willing to compromise. they clearly were not. before this election. they lost, obama won. are boehner and company going to be more willing to compromise now do you believe? >> you were talking about this before. i think they are saying that they're more flexible. they're saying they would take more revenues. if you listen very carefully to what the president said and what john boehner said, they're saying very similar things. president obama in his address in the east room did not once mention raising taxes. >> bill: i caught that. i know that. right. >> listen, he campaigned on it.

boehner's aides who i've been talking to a lot and i cover obviously, are betting that obama had a campaign message and now it is time for the governing message. you saw that on friday. he did not mention race. paper said we're not going to raise tax rates but we're raise tax revenues. they're saying something very similar. what they're looking like they're going to do is keep rates the same for the time being. take the loopholes close them. some of the deductions, cap deductions. that will bring them into a new year with some revenue and then do a reform of the tax code. that's not easy. we're talking about tough stuff. they're going to have to agree to how much revenue the government should bring in through new tax code. what deductions are worth keeping. i mean -- you have a huge divide on that. monstrous divide. >> bill: just on that point in the last session president obama proposed getting rid of

the loopholes if you will, for -- or the subsidies for the oil and gas industry. republicans oppose that. >> pennies. >> bill: but you've gotta start -- >> for sure. but they're going to have to talk about things like the mortgage deduction. capping the mortgage deduction. they're going to have to talk about things like that which are incredibly pop lash middle class deduction that enables americans to buy homes. what are they going to do with that? i don't think a lot of people will be for getting rid of that. there are deductions and loopholes they'll have to -- >> bill: so do you believe that republicans -- are you saying that republicans would rather limit the mortgage interest deduction which is the ultimate middle class tax deduction, right? they would rather do that than ask the wealthiest 2% or 1% of americans to pay more in taxes? >> i don't know about that. i was just offering a mortgage deduction -- >> bill: it seems to me political suicide move.

>> it would be a tough sell. it would certainly be a tough sell. i do not think that republicans will raise tax rates. i don't. i do not think that's -- that's a possibility. and to be fair, i don't think for that, democrats who are up for re-election moderate senate democrats like kay hagen in north carolina and mary landrieu in louisiana will be willing to raise tax rates either. >> bill: maybe we're begging the question here. do you believe that we will end the year by going off the -- over the fiscal cliff? or do you think somehow there will be a resolution of it in this lame duck session? >> i think both, actually. i always think congress is going to mess up. i also have seen now ten times where they've come to an agreement toward the end of a couple of months. so my inclination is that the latter, they'll come to some sort of agreement. >> bill: who is dealing from the strength here?

>> democrats are and rightfully so, they've won the senate. they've won seats in the house. you have to remember that. they didn't take the majority. >> bill: they picked up eight seats in the house. they picked up two more seats in the senate. they control the -- and they won the white house. >> boehner's message is -- and he's trying to define the mood before his members could define it for themselves is that listen, we kept the majority. so that's a vote of confidence for our agenda which is true to an extent. this is the least popular congress in probably in history. and they kept this -- the majority. so that's a pretty telling data point that does give credence a little bit to boehner's argument. >> bill: does boehner now go to the tea party and say hey guys, you know you can't have it your way anymore. we're going to have to work together with this guy now? >> i think that it's boehner and cantor and i think they're already doing that subtly because when they were talking

last year about tax reform, they were talking about revenue mutual tax reform which means the government doesn't need anymore money. this is something that is going to come back to bite them, i think. for the last year and a half, two years, john boehner and eric cantor have been saying the government doesn't have a revenue problem. they have a spending problem. they've been ingraining this message into their members forever. wait, let's give the president more revenue because that's what he wants. so i don't know. >> bill: it is important. it's complicated. jake sherman knows it better than anybody else i know. he's here from politico. we'll continue our conversation and welcome you to join us here. give us a call at 1-866-55-press. send us your tweets at bpshow. we'll be right back. >> announcer: on your radio on tv the "bill press show." new on current tv.

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kind of business. whether it's bee keeping or dairy farms or tobacco or oil and gas companies right? >> or wind or -- a lot of these industries have been subsidized for so long, they can't or don't stand on their own. their business models don't allow that at this point. they get such generous subsidies from the government. >> bill: behind every one of those loopholes is an army of lobbyists. look at the sugar industry. they all have their lobbyists in town fighting for those loopholes. they make a lot of money fighting for the loopholes so the idea that we're going to get rid -- isn't it not going to happen? >> it's not going to happen easily. i mean republicans have been greasing the skids on this for awhile and talking to their members about which one they want to keep. the most popular one across the board is research and development because that hits a lot of corporations -- a lot of people use that. >> bill: r&d.

>> there are so many obscure ones for ball bearings and such crazy things that you would never think of but those mean jobs to a lot of people and a lot of districts so how are you going to go home and say to your biggest employer, sorry we got rid of the tax break. >> bill: those protected by the lobbyists. you have the mortgage interest tax deduction which every middle class american family uses. >> i can't imagine that will go by the wayside. i really can't. might they cap it so wealthy folks who are buying $10 million homes don't get the same benefits as those buying a $300,000 house? yes, i think that's possible. >> bill: you get it for your first house but maybe not the second third fourth, fifth sixth. >> i have it on my sixth. no. i think that's probably right. >> bill: if you have a car elevator and you don't get the -- we're going to say hello to eddie calling from covington louisiana. hey, eddie, good morning. >> caller: how are you doing this morning? >> bill: good. what's your point? >> caller: i was confused about

raising taxes. >> bill: yeah. >> caller: one, i don't know who -- talked about raising taxes on the richest something about millionaires and billionaires but raising taxes only thing for me is have more money for the government to spend instead of cutting down on like you just said, the fat. >> bill: well, you know, eddie, it is always good to talk about cutting the fat but not -- >> not enough fat to cut to get to the bottom of the problem. >> bill: i think the point the president has said -- i don't care what party you are -- you cannot do it all by cuts alone. >> no. if you think if you're a human being, you're spending too much money, you want to stop spending so much money and make more money. that's the point that democrats have been making and that was reinforced by the election. politically for a lot of folks. >> bill: they always say the president should have adopted the simpson bowles -- maybe he

should have. the plan was a combination of -- >> spending cuts and tax increase but the simpson bowles plan got 38 votes in the house of representatives. it's not a real plan. >> bill: exactly. >> it is a real plan but not a viable plan. >> bill: i'm glad you point that out. people say obama was wrong because he didn't adopt simpson bowles. it wasn't even adopted by their own committee. >> it wasn't adopted by their own committee and paul ryan voted against it. >> sure, it is a serious plan. these are serious guys. >> bill: quickly ed is in hedgesville, west virginia. >> caller: how are you doing today? >> bill: good. what's your point? >> caller: i've got two things. i think one of the most ridiculous comments i've heard a guest say in a long time. the statement was made that if they raise taxes they will lose their base because their base is millionaires for some reason,

the only people -- >> bill: a lot of republicans think that. >> caller: this is what -- i'm so tired of hearing comments like that because it isn't they lose their base. they would lose their funding. okay. they may actually get their base back. common sense republicans you noy, who have left, left the party, the last two elections for the first time in my life, i'm 50 years old. i voted in every presidential election and the first time in my life i did not vote for a republican in the last two-cycles. >> bill: all right. ed i really appreciate hearing from you. i hate to cut you off. i want to give jake a chance to answer before we end the hour. he does make a point that maybe there's more support among rank and file republicans who are more realistic support than among their big contributors. >> one quick point. republicans privately tell me if the democrats were to stick to a million dollars on the threshold to raise taxes, they would have to support it.

john boehner ruled it out completely. so it is definitely an escape hatch. >> bill: i've heard talk around washington male raise it up to a million and get enough republican votes. >> could be the way. >> bill: jake, great to see you. thanks for coming in. jake from politico. politico.com. follow him and all of the other good guys at politico. we'll be right back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." it's one box with hundreds of possibilities. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup.

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normally we tell you what the president is up to today. no events on the president's schedule today. he played golf on saturday. yesterday he went to arlington national cemetery, visited the tomb of the unknowns and delivered a powerful message on the part of the american people. >> obama: on this day, we thank all of our veterans from all of our wars. not just for your service to this country but for reminding us why america is and always will be the greatest nation on earth. >> bill: the president pointed out that for this veterans day 2012, for the first time, there are no american combat troops in iraq and that is another reason to celebrate this veterans day. in the next hour, joe cirincione from the ploughshares fund on pornography policy and terry o'neill, president of the national organization for women. two good reasons for staying right where you are.

[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: hey, good morning everybody. what do you say? it is monday, november 12. veterans day 2012. good to see you today. welcome to the "full court press." coming to you live all the way across this great land of ours, north, south east, west, coast-to-coast, from our studio on capitol hill. here on current tv. bringing you the news of the day and taking your calls and what do you say? it is now official. not even the supreme court could stop it this time. president obama has won the state of florida. that makes eight out of nine

battleground states he won. that means he won the popular vote by three million. that means he won the electoral college as well. last tuesday's win is looking bigger and better than ever! give that man a mandate. all right. we'll get into that and a whole lot more here. first we take a little time out. let's find out what's going on, get the latest from lisa ferguson out in los angeles with today's current news update. good morning lisa. >> good morning, bill. hi everyone. central tennessee has a new saying after the president's re-election, once is a slip but twice is a sign. now that romney victory merchandise is headed to sales shelves in third world countries, the republican party is doing some serious reevaluating. in a single night the country not only re-elected a president despised by many members of the g.o.p., it also approved gay marriage in four states and legalized marijuana in two.

that's forcing republicans to take a look at their policies and their messaging. "the new york times" says the party has put itself in a bubble and the diversity in this country can't relate. former commerce secretary and romney adviser carlos gutierrez says hispanics were flat out scared of republicans. the latino vote was a pivotal part of this year's election and that political leverage could lead to new legislation. republicans know they will need to find some common ground if they want any hope of winning over latinos. now g.o.p. senator lindsey graham is talking with democrat chuck schumer over complete immigration reform. on yesterday's talk shows, both sounded optimistic about coming to a bipartisan agreement. that could include amnesty for some of those already in this country illegally. republicans put a stop to it. now graham says it is one thing to shoot yourself in the shoot. just don't reload the gun. more bill coming up.

stay with us. now to my point. (vo) jennifer granholm ... >>for every discouraged voter, there are ten angry ones taking action. trickle down does not work. in romney's world, cars get the elevator and the workers get the shaft. that is a whole bunch of bunk. the powerful may steal an election, but they can't steal democracy.

>> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> bill: it is now official. president obama is the winner in florida. and patrick murphy is the winner over allen west. man! that's great move for this country. and a great move for the united states congress. good morning everybody. what do you say? happy veterans day. it is veterans day 2012. let's make sure that we mark this day as all americans should by taking a moment out to say

thank you, to pay tribute to and salute our veterans of all american wars and thank them for the job that they've done and make sure that their years of post-military service are appreciated and people and their families are well taken care of. great to see you today on this beautiful monday morning. washington, d.c. hope your weekend was as good as ours. we had a glorious weekend in the nation's capital. 70 degrees just about both days saturday and sunday. wherever you happen to be, hope you enjoyed the weekend and are ready to tackle this new week and all of the stories of the day. all of the issues of the day. lots going on with congress coming back tomorrow and washington gearing up for big fight over the fiscal cliff and preventing america from going over the cliff. we'll get into whatever's happening anywhere in the world today. anywhere in this country, here in our nation's capital and take your calls at 1-866-55-press. you can also join us on twitter.

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mitt romney just wondering about that himself out on the balcony of his home gazing at the stars as one by one his five sons cam came out to ask dad what he's up to next. here he is with son matt. >> hello matt. >> mother sent me to come get you, father. paul ryan is doing beat the strength in the drawing room. >> i would like to see him carry wisconsin. i'm sorry. that was uncalled-for. i'm sorry. >> have you been drinking? you smell like a dairy. >> what do you say you share a drink with your old man. >> father, i'm only 38. >> bill: yeah. mitt romney had a -- he was drinking in fact. he was drinking. he was drinking milk. he was drinking milk from a carton of milk. >> oh, that mormon. >> bill: yeah, we've always suspected he had a drinking problem.

so all right. so coming up this hour, joe cirincione is going to be joining us and to talk some foreign -- important foreign policy issues. we'll also be joined at the half hour by terry o'neill president of the national organization for women. again, take your calls at 1-866-55-press. let's get right into it. and starting with david petraeus and what that's all about. but first -- >> this is the "full court press." >> other headlines -- >> bill: slow down. >> other headlines making news on this monday, ashley judd responded to rumors over the weekend that she's considering a run for senate against mitch mcconnell in kentucky in 2014. >> bill: go, go, go! >> the actor telling "us weekly" magazine she's hannered people have approached her about running but she's not ready to think about it just yet saying we just came out of an election. everyone's focus should be on coming together now and moving forward.

she was an active supporter of the president on the campaign trail and has not ruled the senate run out completely. >> bill: i would love to see her or anybody challenge mitch mcconnell. that would be as good as getting rid of allen wrest. >> if you're a republican and are depressed after last week's election results and are looking for a new relationship to lift your spirits, consider moving to scottsdale arizona. buzzfeed.com reports that according to new data from chemistry.com, online daters in scottsdale who identified themselves as republicans received the most attention over others on the web site. the rest of the top five cities were republicans looking for love will find better luck. jacksonville dallas, houston and colorado springs. scottsdale is the place to be. go to the desert. >> bill: just become democrats then they can find love anywhere. >> there you go. and in sports, the atlanta falcons are no longer perfect. the new orleans saints handed them their first loss of the season yesterday. in a close match-up, they just

won by four. falcons are now 8-1. they share theful the nfl-leading record with the houston texans. the league's first tie in a game in four years. the san francisco 49ers and st. louis cardinals finishing at 24 points each after overtime. it included missed field goals from both teams. >> bill: don't they keep playing until somebody wins? >> only in the playoffs, not the regular season. >> bill: really? i didn't know that. the falcons lost and alabama lost. >> that's why peter's not here today. he's drowning his sorrows in milk. >> bill: he is in mourning. you know, i think a lot of people are in mourning over what happened to david petraeus and love to get your comments on this. 1-866-55-press. i've got a different take than most of my friends. first of all it is so -- such a messy story but it's not -- it's not that unusual a story in a sense. what we know about this is --

basically, it was a love triangle. david petraeus admits he was having an affair with this woman, his biographer. she learns there is this other woman down in tampa. jill kelly who is getting kind of friendly with petraeus. paula broadwell the mistress, she is jealous of jill kelly so she starts sending her some threatening e-mails. ugly e-mails. now -- but here's what's different about this is this jill kelly's got a friend who happens to be an fbi agent. she says something to him about man, i've been getting these ugly e-mails from this woman -- from somebody, i'm not sure who they are and he says oh, we'll open an fbi investigation into that. and in doing so, they discover the e-mails are coming from petraeus' mistress and from this woman and then they discover she is, in fact, petraeus' mistress. so then it blows up.

they confront petraeus. he goes to the president. he offered his resignation. so my questions are why is the fbi involved in this in the first place. this is what they did in the days of j. edgar hoover. they investigated people's secret sex lives. they were investigates, you know finding out who was having an affair. the fbi was using it. hoover was using it to blackmail people. is this really what the fbi -- what we want the fbi doing? don't they have more important things they ought to be doing? than people's sex lives? come on. number one. i don't know why the fbi's involved. number two, i don't know why petraeus felt that he had to resign. he wasn't forced out. he offered ois his ignore -- he offered his resignation. as a country we put sex and human frailty up and put too much importance on it. there's no reason, i believe for david petraeus to have to

resign. david vitter is still in the united states senate. newt gingrich ran for president. he's a serial adulter. i'm not saying it's right. i'm saying this one affair and petraeus, we could not accept petraeus as the c.i.a. director? was he a good general? yeah, he was a great general. did he do a good job in iraq? he did a great job at iraq. was was he doing a good job at the c.i.a.? yes. end of story. we place too much importance on this. it just seems to me as americans we were still living in the victorian age and that's why petraeus felt that he had to resign. sad day. for this country. i believe. 1-866-55-press. invite you to join in and we'll be joined by joe cirincione. hopefully when we come back here on the "full court press." >> announcer: chatting with you live at current.com/billpress. this is the "bill press show."

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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: joe cirincione is our >> announcer: this is the "full court press." the "bill press show." live on your radio and on current tv. >> bill: all right. 20 minutes after the hour now. here he is the man himself. head of the ploughshares fund, joe cirincione. joe, great to see you. there's a lot on your plate this morning. >> lightning round. let's go right through it. >> bill: we'll go right through it. i want to start out with david petraeus. should he have resigned? >> yes, he had to. no question about it. >> bill: why? >> particularly because he's former military and --

>> bill: former military. >> yes, former military but -- you saw the president hisitated -- hesitated. sat on it. diane feinstein said he shouldn't have resigned. >> bill: military honor. >> yes. >> bill: was there any breach of national security? >> none that we know of. this is truly a personal affair. just overlapped with his official duties. no classified information released to the best of our knowledge. >> bill: isn't it time that america left the victorian era and accepted the fact that people do make human mistakes? >> yes. yes, you could be large like this. at least leave them alone when they acknowledge their mistakes and don't make a circus out of it like we'll have for the next couple of weeks. >> bill: on the front page of "the new york times" this morning, the syrian opposition signs a unity deal. this is a big deal. >> it is a big deal. we have some good news here.

so the syrian national council which had been representing the fighters in syria have been accused of being out of touch the people really weren't in syria. so the u.s. in particular has been pushing to enlarge the group. we now have done that. so the existing syrian national council will have, perhaps 30% of the seats on this larger group which will function like a parliament. bringing in more representation from the groups that are in there. this will now become the unified conduit for getting aid including arms to the opposition fighter. >> bill: so this means we have a legitimate resistance force right? legitimate opposition which could become the legitimate new government. >> legitimate because it is more representative. because it has larger groups. and it has healed some of the riffs that have existed between some of the christian muslim organizations. >> bill: now speaking of

riffs, netanyahu in israel bet on the wrong horse. he all but endorsed mitt romney for president. even beforehand, he was pretty snippy as far as far as an american, i resented his personal criticisms of president obama. is -- now that president obama's running for re-election is there a riff between israel and the united states? >> there's something of a rift and there's also a rift inside israel with many of netanyahu's critics arguing that he went too far. he never should do this. you never choose sides in american politics. why would he? >> bill: he should have known better than that. >> i was just at a j street gathering where they were going over the results of the election. >> bill: j street being? >> a progressive pro israel organization so it stands for israel and for a state solution. they work actively on achieving middle east peace. they were looking what happened

with the israel vote. a big effort of netanyahu and conservatives in america was to make israel a wedge issue. to split voters off. it failed miserably. jewish voters are like all other voters their number one issue is with the economy and healthcare. only about 15% said israel was the number one issue so it didn't look like this whole effort hurt obama at all in the election. it should be a sigh of relief for those who have been hammered by apec and other organizations over the years. they can take independent positions and not worry about suffering at the polls. >> bill: so the sheldon adelsons or the mitt romneys of this world who accuse president obama of throwing israel under the bus were wrong, number one. >> right. factually incorrect. not true at all. one of the greatest allies israel has ever had is this president. it didn't affect the results at all. president obama got 70% of the jewish vote including -- in key states like ohio and florida. >> bill: tom friedman had a great column i believe in the

"new york times" yesterday called my president is busy. where he really says that being that netanyahu has created a problem and the israelis will have to sort these out themselves in terms of their relationship. >> he's saying netanyahu if you think obama is going to get even now, he's not going to pay attention to you. he's got a whole lot of other things to do. this does set up something of a rift. you'll see this -- in contrast to the "new york times" editorial today. peace in the middle east has to start with the israelis and the palestinians unless they're ready, there's nothing we can do. "the new york times" editorial represents the other camp. there's always something become do. -- there's always something we can do. they're urging the president to get involved now. >> bill: you're talking about this morning's "new york times." >> this morning's "new york times" editorial. yes. >> bill: this morning's "new york times," the foreign policy agenda as if there is a foreign policy -- foreign policy agenda was certainly not front and

center for the presidential campaign. >> yes. >> bill: but it's there. it is very important and it remains, particularly in the middle east. "the new york times" says that the number one issue is president obama has a vision of a world without nuclear weapons. that's the ploughshares fund. >> it is. >> bill: that's where it starts. "the new york times" is saying that has to be his number one agenda. >> we have terrible problems in the world. this is the only problem that can destroy the world. the about the can do something about it. he can move out smartly to issue new guidance that would reduce the number of weapons that are required for our military missions. he can start implementing the guidance. he doesn't need a treaty to do it. he can do this in mutual reductions with the russians. he can bring up to the senate the long-awaited comprehensive test ban treaty, this bans nuclear tests. there is a whole lot of things the president can do with this new momentum that he's got from his re-election. >> bill: this is it. >> this is a legacy item for

him. i know he feels personally about this. there is a reason it is at the top of the "new york times" list. >> bill: i would also consider a national security issue and a legacy issue of climate change. global warming would be right up there. >> you saw that got a boost in the last days of the campaign from mayor bloomberg and of course, the weather itself. we can expect more. i think -- you know, of the things that got a boost from this election. i think the sleeper issue is nuclear policy. simply by re-electing obama who cares about this deeply. certainly immigration reform and i believe climate change as well. in addition because of what happened in california with the super majority that now allows them 1/8 of the nation to enact some of the most progressive policies in the country. >> bill: president obama is going to asia next week. he's going to burma next week. what's the significance of that trip? >> recognizing democracy. recognizing the change.

>> bill: they're notorious for their violations of human rights. putting people in jail and political dissidence. >> which is why he's going to visit the government and he's going to visit the human rights activists who were there as well to continue to reward them for good behavior. this is a very simple formula. you do what we want you to do. you move in that direction. you get recognition. you get rewarded. build more ties. try to lock in the change. >> bill: the president wants to show that we are both oceans, right? we're on active -- active and present in both hemispheres. >> this is part of a pivot toward asia. it has nothing to do with china. it is a broader asia agenda. he's going to demonstrate it. >> bill: that's a pretty good lightning round! [ laughter ] >> how many points do i get for this? >> bill: you get a lot of points for this. as always. ploughshares.org. joe cirincione. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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obama hate machine" still available. sign up and tell us -- this is -- you can get it in your bookstore. if you want a signed copy, go to our web site at billpressshow.com. tell us how you want it signed. i'll sign these right after the show. this was a big night tuesday night, particularly a big night for women candidates to the house, to the senate. and involved in many of those races and following those of these issues. terry o'neill is the president of the national organization for women. a good friend of the program. it is good to see you again terry. thanks for coming in. >> great to see you. >> bill: a lot for women to celebrate on tuesday night across the board. >> absolutely. >> bill: who were some of the big highlights for you? >> clearly tammy baldwin for senate. elizabeth warren for senate. chris murphy in connecticut won in the senate. he was a n. o. w. endorsed candidate. we endorse those who support our

issues. >> bill: you also had claire mccaskill coming back in. >> which is thrilling. todd akin, mr. legitimate rape defeated. mr. mourdock mr. rape -- pregnancy from rape is a gift of god defeated. of course, frankly neither senator mccaskill nor joe donnelly got the now united nations now endorsement. we're eager to work with senator mccaskill. i'm thrilled with the new makeup of the senate. we now have 20 jim in the senate. that's not a big improvement. from the 17 we had before. but it's fascinating to me that of the 20 women we have -- >> bill: if i can interrupt you. harry reid said when he came to the senate, there was one. barbara mick ulky. we have -- barbara mikulski. we have come a long way. >> i have been told it takes about 30 to 35%. now there's new study out that

suggests it is 50%. to have a real impact. but what i expect to begin seeing is some common sense policy that will actually move our country more toward spending on socially productive things like education and healthcare and social work. the kinds of things that people who need a little bit of government assistance can -- less money spent on military hardware, on weapons systems those are deconstructive uses of our money. we need to have the wealthiest kicking in and paying their fair share which currently they don't. >> bill: that gets into the fiscal cliff issue which i do want to talk to you about. back to the issue of women voters president obama picked up 55%, maybe a little more of the women's vote. my question is what's wrong with the other 45. >> it is pretty clear to me. forget your political party. you know.

whose policies are better for american women? in terms of choice. in terms of contraception. in terms of economic issues. in terms of equal pay for equal rights the lilly ledbetter thing which mitt romney says he would not have signed. >> exactly. you know, look, i think that the -- when it came down to it, the election was about the economy. and on the part of the voters as to who was better able to lead this economy into real growth and real prosperity and women overwhelmingly actually concluded that the kinds of programs that mitt romney and paul ryan are pitching are wrong for the country. at the same time, the women who did vote for romney and ryan, what i hear a lot from women and this is -- anecdotal but it is that oh, i'm not worried about reproductive rights. that's never going to happen. we're not really ever going to lose that. oh i worry about jobs.

>> bill: think about the supreme court. >> right. exactly. we dodged a bullet, hugely. if romney had won this election, we would be look at absolutely the overturning of roe v. wade. one of the nice things that happened since roe v. wade was decided, we now have lots of studies, international studies that looking at women's utilization of reproductive health services. what we know is this. that when you criminalize abortion, the abortion rate does not go down. what happens is more women are put at risk forever their lives and -- for their lives and for their health going forward. if they survive a nonmedically appropriate abortion, if they survive it, they may be injured for the rest of their lives. so the rates of abortion don't go down. it is just the safety of abortion. >> bill: maybe i'm mistaken but i thought i had seen numbers that -- today, in this country where abortion is legal --

abortion rates have gone down. >> abortion rates go down especially in areas where you have a full range of reproductive health services. so -- >> bill: family planning is available. >> family planning and std h.i.v. testing and regular checkups. so if the whole range is available and also they have fewer unintended pregnancies and abortion rates go down, that's not the case in places like texas which has backwards attitudes about abortion. texas was the first mandatory ultrasound law. in texas, it is still required that a woman -- experience nonmedically necessary ultrasound via a vaginal wand. it is the one thing that -- did not pass in virginia. >> bill: that was passed in texas? i didn't know that. >> yes. it flew under the radar screen. yeah. and -- >> bill: thank you rick perry. >> exactly. when it came to virginia, it suddenly broke through the public consciousness.

i think it was as if there was this noise noise noise and then -- >> bill: bob mcdonnell had to back away from it. congress comes back tomorrow. the big issue they're talking about is how to avoid the fiscal cliff. what are the implications here for women? >> well, if we buy into the nonsense about the fiscal cliff and everybody inside the belt -- >> bill: you think dough this? >> it is clearly not real. i'll tell you why. what we really -- obviously over a long period of time, we need to balance the federal budget. conservatives have -- have created a situation where the budget is badly out of balance because billionaires are getting all of these tax breaks and corporations are getting tax breaks so less money coming in to the federal -- >> bill: not to mention if i might just interject here, two wars, not paid for. >> unpaid-for. >> bill: the tax cuts not paid for. the expansion of medicare not paid for. so yeah. they created this problem. >> they created this problem and

now what they want to do to fix it is to undermine social programs that women very disproportionately rely on. head start, after school programs, training programs, pell grants and so forth. those disproportionately employ women as well as disproportionately serving women. they're trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the american people and now that we have this manufactured deficit which we created by giving tax breaks to billionaires and corporations and too much military spending and not enough social spending, now we're going to fix this artificial mess on the backs of women. on the backs of middle income and lower income middle-class families where women's income is an essential part of the family's well-being. >> bill: so any -- so this -- whatever solution that they're talking about you believe will have an adverse impact on the programs that women depend upon. so what's the solution?

just keep rolling out deficits and keep spending? >> what you do is you have very short term spike in the deficit. listen to elizabeth warren. she really understands this stuff. in the short run what we need are jobs programs. the private sector is failing. they're creating jobs but they're not creating jobs fast enough to fix the problem that the bush administration created when it drove our economy off a cliff. we need five million more jobs and the government is in a position to do it. yes, it will run up deficits in the short run but what we need are very aggressive jobs program. that get the economy -- >> bill: like a second stimulus. >> but a real stimulus this time. one that's big enough to make a dent. the first stimulus was too small to do. we need a major one. it needs to very much look at rehiring the teachers, the social workers the child care workers, all of those kinds of jobs support working parents. and so not only do you put people to work by rehiring the

teachers and the social workers and the child care workers you're also then allowing other workers in the private sector to be able to keep their jobs and work as quote-unquote employees. once you get the stimulus, once the stimulus has gotten the economy really rolling again that is when you look to balancing the federal budget. and you bring down the deficit this way. first, you insist the billionaires for the first time in 30 years, for the first time in 30 years paying their fair share. which they have not for a very long time. insist that corporations may their fair share in taxes. you tackle the inequality there. is no excuse for a ceo to be making 360times what his and it is almost always a him ordinary worker makes. that has to change. increase the wages for workers that have been flat and falling for 30 years and you'll have more income tax coming into the system to support the programs government should be paying for.

teachers, firefighters, police officers and healthcare. it is not rocket science. we just have to understand that the political philosophy that insists that we balance the federal government on the backs of ordinary middle-class families is a loser philosophy and it just lost the election and we need to move forward with what the voters want. >> bill: and not buy into their losing formula. >> absolutely. >> bill: terry o'neill full of fire here this morning. head of the national organization for women. you think elizabeth warren is tough, you haven't met terry o'neill. your call -- join the conversation here at any time. give us a call at 1-866-55-press. you can agree. you can disagree. join the conversation. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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(vo) cenk uygur is many things. >>oh really? >>tax cuts don't create jobs. the golden years as the conservatives call them, we had the highest tax rates, and the highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts. >>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true!

>> announcer: this is the "full court press." the "bill press show." live on your radio and on current tv. >> bill: terry o'neill from the national organization of women celebrating the many wins of women on tuesday and also talk about some of the challenges facing women in these discussions over the fiscal cliff. join the conversation here on twitter or with your calls at 1-866-55-press. back to terry in just a minute. but first this is sort of related. a lot of people having a hard time paying bills at the end of each month. here's something you might want to take a look into and that's incomeathome.com. they're america's leading work from home business doing business in over 80 countries and offering you an opportunity you can take advantage of. you can do this. no matter your age education or

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lot of sense talking about the economic challenges that face us. i hope that her voice is heard in washington during the lame duck session. her prescription for the economy is what the voters chose. and the lame duck -- our elected officials during the lame duck session, i think should pay attention to that. >> bill: right. you're darn right she did a good job in the debates. why do you think scott brown canceled the last debate? charles is calling from birmingham alabama. what do you say? >> buenos dias senor. >> bill: buenos dias. >> caller: bill, i have not heard a lot of discussion about how the withdrawal from afghanistan might affect the budget negotiations. >> bill: yeah, that raises a very good question, charles. inappreciate hearing from you on this veterans day. the president has talked about that terry. he's said, without maybe -- i haven't heard a specific number but one of the advantages of ending the war in iraq and

drawing down troops in afghanistan is that ought to free up some funds for nation building here at home. >> absolutely. it is very important. one of the parts of nation building we have to engage in is being sure we're there for all of our veterans. for the women and men who have been in afghanistan and in iraq. the ptsd, post-traumatic stress dissort a huge issue for returning veterans. homelessness is an enormous issue and jobs is an enormous issue for veterans. we need a jobs program for the returning veterans. what we need to do is have our good hard-earned taxpayer dollars going to support socially productive uses like putting our veterans back to work and getting them the adequate healthcare that they need. >> bill: and some of the money can go to rebuilding the infrastructure in this country too. it is national organization for women. now,. now.org is the web site where you can keep up with all of the range of issues that the

national organization for women are involved in. what is -- on that issue related -- what's the position of now on women in combat? >> well, we think that women should have equal access to the promotion and the pay. that is available in the military. look at extraordinarily brave women like tammy duckworth. you know, currently even today although women soldiers are very much on the front lines they're just as subject to being injured and wounded in combat as men. they're still to this day not entitled to combat pay in the same way that the male soldiers are and they don't get combat-related eligibility for promortion the way that -- promotion the way that men do. that needs to change. >> bill: i had no idea. why wouldn't they get -- talk about -- this is a violation of lilly ledbetter it seems to me. right? >> you would think. >> bill: in our own military. >> exactly. it is not okay. and the military has been moving very, very slowly to treat women

soldiers and women across the entire military more equally but we need to get to full equality. they're not there yet. >> bill: how many members? national organization of women? >> we have 500,000. they're online, they're in paper. they're on the phone and we have about 350 active local chapters and state organizations. >> bill: wow. that's a powerful force. >> yeah, it is. >> bill: your power in yourself there. terry o'neill is the president of the national organization for women. again, it is now.org. you can follow her on twitter. just simply at terry o'neill. good to have you in the studio. thanks thanks for coming in. >> thanks, bill. >> bill: i'll be back with a parting shot for today about david petraeus. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv.

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> >> announcer: the parting shot with bill press. >> announcer: the parting shot with bill press. this is the "bill press show." >> bill: here we go on this monday, november 12. veterans day. my parting shot, you know, i was at the white house on friday when news broke of general petraeus' resignation. at first, i couldn't believe he would resign as head of the c.i.a. and i found it even harder to believe that he chose to resign because of an extramarital affair. seriously, isn't this too extreme a punishment for something that may be immoral but it is certainly not illegal. did not interfere with his job. and represented no breach of national security. look general petraeus is a good man, a good soldier a great

leader. he led our troops with distinction and so far as we know, was doing an effective job as head of the c.i.a. yeah he made one mistake. who hasn't. is it really worth destroying his career over? one thing for sure, it is a good thing the same standard doesn't apply to our elected officials. i mean if every senator or congressman who ever had an extramarital affair were thrown out of congress, washington would be a ghost town. think about it. congress impeached bill clinton over oral sex and now david petraeus is forced to resign over an affair? looks like we americans are still living in the victorian age. get over it. tomorrow, very exciting. we're going to take a look at a very, very important program the white house fellows and you'll get to meet three of this year's white house fellows only right here on the "full court press." have a good day. we'll see you back here again tomorrow.